I know all of us aren't Fruits Basket readers, or may not have gotten through the volume yet, but I finally got it and read it last night, and I'm gonna treat this the same as the FMA post, and we can comment as we read. Also, just as a warning, and as an apology especially to the guys, there will probably be a lot of fangirling when anything to do with this series comes up. I'm one of the biggest Kyo fangirls on the planet. So sorry in advance, but hey, you were warned. On with the discussion!
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OMG my poor sweet Kyo! My heart's been going out to him more and more as we've gotten further and further into this series, and now seeing all the things that link him with Tohru and Kyoko, and the anguish he's felt because of that connection, I just want to cry for him. He's had such a hard life, so few people have been even kind to him, let alone loved him, and I want so much for him to be loved and to be happy and not feel guilty. I was surprised at how much guilt he felt for Kyoko's death, but his reaction was pretty typical once we all understand the reason behind him just "disappearing". I need to read it again, I was rushing through it before bed so that I could see what happened, but it looks like a lot of loose ends are starting to come together. Tohru, with her knack for love and acceptance and kindness, is finally getting through to Akito, though Akito seems to have snapped finally too. I was in shock that she would stab Kureno, and even more shocked that Tohru fell. Again, I'm gonna need to reread, cuz I'm not sure if she pushed her or what. I was also curious about Hatori's comment to Shigure about his "plans" working. We all knew he was up to something for ages, and I'm sort of starting to see what, but it's still pretty hazy. And Yuki and Kyo finally facing up and admitting they wanted to be like each other...I really wish this part of the series was animated, just to hear some of these conversations from the voices I've come to associate with these characters...hearing Jerry Jewell and Eric Vale yelling this stuff at each other...mmm. Anyway, now that Tohru and Kyo finally admitted to how they feel about one another, I guess it'll take a while for the message to sink in, but I still have to gush about how adorably awkward Kyo is about wanting to protect her, and how Yuki accuses him of wanting to be a superhero. I think it's a tribute to Kyo being able to understand that kind of love even though he's seen so little of it...wanting to protect her at any cost, and from anything that might hurt her, even though he knows such a thing isn't possible. I feel like I'm rambling now, so I'm going to stop, but I'll probably have more to say later.
Gah I need to go look over these again.
I really need to look over these again, too...or just go out and buy my copy.
I remember that fight between Yuki and Kyo. It sure was a long time in coming! Kyo needed a good kick in the butt, too, if memory serves. Go Yuki!! :D
Aww, stop picking on my Kyo! He had his issues, and they didn't warrant Yuki going black on him like that. =P
Yeah, he had issues. And he deserved to be beat up. :P
Didn't know you liked violent guys with weird taste in clothes. =P
Ha, Yuki described as violent? That's really funny considering that you're defending Kyo here. And I think Yuki has great taste in clothes! He's hawt. :D
Kyo is hawter, and he has better dress sense. At least he always looks like a real guy.
As for Yuki being violent, even Shigure described him as turning into "Black Yuki" when he went all scary on Kyo.
No he doesn't have better dress sense! Yuki has really cool clothes and he does not look like a girl (any more than any other male character in furuba anyway). I really like Kyo and I rooted for him throughout the entire series, but in these later volumes I came to really appreciate Yuki to the point where I realized how much I undervalued him in the earlier volumes. And he was absolutely right in getting on Kyo's case for his treatment of Tohru. Good job, Yuki!!
As for the violence - well, sometimes that's the only way to get through to someone as thick-headed as Kyo. And it's not like Kyo's not violent. The guy is always picking fights with people.
*giggles* You know I'm just teasing you. I do like Yuki, and you were right, I liked him a lot more in later volumes, but I still can't help but love Kyo more, his personality is more in keeping with what I find attractive. And to me, Yuki's clothes have always looked just a little girly.
I will agree with you though, Kyo needed a wake up call, and hearing it from Yuki in the way that he did, it was sure to penetrate and make him really think about what was going on. I'm dying to find out what happens next, whether he takes the fight to Yuki in a real way and makes every effort to win so that he can be with Tohru or if he continues to run. Or maybe if he takes out Akito. She's starting to come around finally, but she's reached a breaking point, and I'm nervous about what that will bring her to. She's already hurt Kureno, and was present when Tohru got hurt, although she didn't cause it. And what she's lived for all her life is falling apart. She could wind up doing something desperate to escape from her pain and fear and loneliness. I just don't want to see her hurt anyone else.
And I'm just teasing you right back. I'm still laughing at your comment about Yuki being violent when the person you're defending is Kyo. While Kyo has learned a lot about controlling his temper, and in these later volumes the antagonistic relationship those two have has been more simmering than boiling, it's still funny to criticize Yuki as the violent one. :P
I think it's interesting that Kyo is more attractive to you. Don't get me wrong - I love Kyo - but I think in real life, if I went to school with both Kyo and Yuki, Yuki would probably be the one I'd be after. :D
I really need to read through these chapters. I can't remember where this volume leaves off...so much good stuff coming up though! Yay!!
It just made it that much more fun when for once Yuki was the one who instigated the violence instead of Kyo. Normally it's the other way around, and the accusation is so unusual...well, you see where I'm going. I'm on pain meds for sinuses and shoulder, and also a large chocolate mousse with raspberry, not to mention a lovely pomegranate martini, so I'm not as coherent as usual, just in the mood to fangirl.
I dunno, Yuki is attractive, but I kind of think he looks too girly for my tastes, not to mention Kyo and the orange hair and red eyes...mmm. Besides, Yuki is the sort who was so shy and retiring, I'd be much more interested in the active personality. In general I would probably get along well enough with both of them, but I think Yuki might frustrate me more than Kyo, at least while he was younger, now that he's not depending on Tohru as a mom figure he's much more interesting. At least Kyo isn't at all shy about his emotions, even if he's adorably awkward about expressing them to a girl. Guys who bottle aren't as interesting to me because when they do finally let their emotions out it turns into a huge drama trip. Kyo has his drama, but at least it's regular releases instead of one big one once in a while.
Yeah, I watched the anime through again, started last night and finished this afternoon, I just had to. I'd love to hear some of these later scenes played out between Eric Vale and Jerry Jewell, not to mention Laura Bailey as the drama with her mom and Kyo unfolds.
I'm so dying to find out what happens next, but my heart is breaking for Kyo...I want so much for him to be happy, I think Yuki is already on his way there, but so much higher stakes for Kyo with what's in store for him and how little time he has left.
Yuki is much more attractive in these later chapters because he doesn't bottle his emotions up anymore. He's finally starting to behave like a normal human being. I think much more than Tohru (although she was the start) the credit goes to the student council. As annoying as those chapters can be, they are so important for Yuki's character development and they are much more fun to read through on a second or third time (the first time I just wanted to get to the core of the story with the curse). The Yuki at the beginning of the story wouldn't interest me, but the Yuki at this point in the story is quite interesting to me.
As for Kyo, I've always loved his character, but he has a lot of growing up to do yet, even in these later chapters. While he has been always there for Tohru in ways none of the other characters have been (although Momiji has tried and succeeded to a certain level), he still has a ways to go. And talking about keeping things bottled up - that's exactly what Kyo's been doing all this time about Tohru's mom!! :P Of course, it's not something that's easy to talk about, and I don't blame him in the least. I think he's been admirable in how he's treated her and even come to love her despite the guilt that he's felt all this time.
Ah, I really need to see where these chapters leave off. I guess I should just open up my scans, although I really do need to just order my copy. Maybe later today.
*What's wrong with your shoulder? I know you have sinus problems, but your shoulder's hurt now? I owe you an email, actually...I'll get one out a little later. :)
I'll agree that it's a combo of Yuki opening up to Tohru and allowing himself to get close to the student council, though I agree with you that on the first read the chapters concerning them are kind of annoying, and I'm still mostly drawn to the core story of the curse. I love Yuki, but I still love Kyo more.
As for his bottling, I don't think it's bottling in the same way. He doesn't hide his emotions in the same way, though he was concealing the guilt from Tohru for obvious reasons. If you'll recall, Yuki couldn't even laugh or anything in front of everyone else, and he said one of the things he admired about Kyo was the way he could interact with people. He gets angry, he laughs, he fights, and he shows himself to people in a way that Yuki is still learning how to do, mostly through the student council. I think because of his secret about her mom, he also needed Tohru's acceptance and kindness and love more than Yuki did, and because she gave it so willingly he was finally able to tell her what he needed to to ease his own guilt. But I can't blame him for being afraid to tell her too, because he stood a good chance of losing that love.
My shoulder is tense again, to a point where it's giving me tension headaches, nothing new, but not fun. Hard to treat both of those, as they require different kinds of pain meds that aren't really supposed to be mixed. I'll look forward to your email. Do you think our fangirl war has been annoying the guys? =D
We've had insightful discussion...I could hardly call it a fangirl war. :D
I dunno, I could argue that we're both arguing the case for our favorite Sohma boy, but no matter. On another note, seems like Shigure's had his hand in this in some way for a while, and I'm very curious to find out what he's up to.
I never said Yuki was my favorite. :P
Ah, Shigure...yes, he's had an interesting role in this whole thing, but it's been hard to place exactly what his role or objective is. Any thoughts?
In this volume he was talking to Hatori and they said something about his plans starting to come together or something...I think he's more insightful than most of the zodiac members, especially in the way he knows Akito, and he's been putting things in motion with regard to Tohru and breaking the curse since he met her and realized the impact she could have on Kyo and Yuki. I wonder about his motive though, since he and Akito have their history and I dunno how worried he is about having his own curse broken. I don't think he's actually ever mentioned it, has he?
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